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Kurt Meyer: Hi everyone. So I'm Kurt. I lead the Product team here at Orah, and I'm with Ronan, who I work with closely around the, products we're about to show today.
Ronan Quirke: Hi, everybody. Yeah, great to be here. Yeah, so as Kurt mentioned, so I work, closely with Kurt and many of the schools, hopefully many of the schools on this webinar, just, um, primarily I focus on a lot of the, integration and general platform things.
And Kurt is our expert on, on attendance, but as we've been focusing a lot on attendance over the last year or so, I guess we're both pretty qualified. So if you've got any questions as we go, be sure to, just pop them in, in, in the question box. and we'll take them as the, as they come up and we'll also get into some more detailed questions at the end.
So feel free to test us.
Kurt Meyer: Awesome. Thanks, Ronan. so it looks like we've got a pretty good turnout today, which is great to see.so yeah, I'll just share my screen and we can kick on.
can you see that, Ronan? Yep. Perfect.
Okay, so just a little bit about Orah for those of you who are not aware. so we started In 2015, close to 10 years now, we work with over 300 schools around the world, primarily boarding schools, some of the top, independent schools.around the world, and we really focus on helping them, meet and exceed their duty of care responsibilities.
And by duty of care at Orah, we mean helping schools, better account for their students, both physically and mentally, so that they can provide, A more secure and supportive environment.so that was very important, within the boarding school context because you're pretty much,a substitute parent for the students while they're away from home.
but this idea of duty of care and accounting for students actually applies across the whole school, not just the boarding side. And that's what we've been, working on, for the last few years.so when we think about the different aspects of duty of care, there's three main categories, that we focus on, which is attendance, being, and communications, and Those categories, answer pretty important questions that you need to know when you're looking after, students and the very basic but fundamental questions like, where are my students?
Where are they? Do I actually have an understanding of where they are while they're under my care? How are they? how are they going? How are they feeling? How are they,mentally and emotionally, and how do we communicate with them? are we communicating appropriately? Do we have visibility on how staff are communicating with the students and, that sort of thing.
So these fundamental questions are, we believe essential to providing, the best in class duty of care. That's what we focus on here at Orah, but today we're going to be mainly focused on this attendance side and better understanding where your students are.so more specifically how we integrate with, your existing student information system and how Aura, yeah.
How Aura syncs up with the data that you have within your SIS and how you configure Aura around USIS, or it sits on top of USIS don't. Aim to replace it. We aim to compliment it and, just handle the attendance side, but keep all your essential records, within the
Ronan Quirke: SIS itself. yeah, I was just going to say, that's really the big challenge.
And maybe the next slide talks to that a little bit more, but, the key challenge for schools is, they do want to have, more real time insights and capability, but the challenge, and this is what we're digging into today is how do you move forward? How do you actually move from your current platform?
without making a huge migration over to a completely new system. and that's, I suppose that's what we're focusing on today.
Kurt Meyer: So some of the challenges that we see schools facing around attendance is that, the current systems are clunky, hard to use, usually quite outdated and not optimized for the end user experience.and often there's multiple systems used to track where students are and for keeping account of attendance, which creates information silos.
So you don't get that full visibility and, Accuracy of records.there's a lot of manual data entry leading to lagging data or inaccurate data, and, a lot of, time and resources spent, managing that, those processes, and, ultimately you don't have a real time understanding of where students are.
and there's not a high level of confidence that you'll, information that you have around attendance is accurate.
Ronan Quirke: Yeah, I think, I think the systems that a lot of schools are using at the moment, We're as good as you could get about 10 years ago. and since then, you've been schools have been working hard to try and find ways to to improve things and bring them into the more digital age that we're now living in by bolting on different apps and, been doing as good a job as you can, but, but the challenge there is that it becomes a little bit disjointed.
the systems that you're using weren't really built for real time. and then you have this disjointed experience and just fundamentally the tooling isn't what we need. Isn't what parents like me expect. They want to use an app. They want to just be able to jump on and just fire something in.
I'm sure the schools do too, but really the core systems that you're using don't really cater to that. And just bolting on a few apps,is better. But it's not, it leads to that disjointed experience.
Kurt Meyer: Yeah, and another key thing to bear in mind is that, these Existing systems, they track attendance mainly for an academic, for academic purposes to generate your transcripts.
They weren't built to track attendance to understand where students are in real time for duty of care responsibilities. So it's quite a different, type of system to address those two different problems. But the way that we approach it at Orah is that we handle the duty of care, real time understanding where students are.
And the, almost like a side benefit of that is that you get accurate attendance records, which we feed back into the SIS, so that you still have. your accurate, academic transcripts.so that's an important distinction when you think about attendance is is this attendance for academics or is this attendance for, real time student accounting?
because they can get confused sometimes when you think, but my SIS already does attendance. It probably does, but only for that specific use case. And I think that's why there's a lot of schools struggling with their existing systems and, trying to, Achieve something that the system wasn't really built for.
so we do have deep integrations with most of our, SIS' that we work with.but today we're just gonna focus on one in particular, which is TASSS who's, one of the major systems in Australia. And there are slight differences between the different systems depending on the API capabilities that we have available.
so although we'll be using TASS as the main example, the other systems, have similar capabilities.
so just looking at the general setup of how Orah works with TASS, so we have an integration with the API where we'll be pulling over, some of the core information from TASS either daily or hourly. And that's information that we need in order for Orah to,operate as the primary attendance solution.
So that's your timetables, things like that, but we'll go into that into the next slide. and so once we have that core information, then Orah uses the primary attendance system where we're tracking your class attendance, managing absences, parent excuses, and,on campus, check ins, like if a student's at the health center or at a music lesson or something like that, where they might be excused from class, while they're still on campus.
so that would all be managed within Orah, and that's all real time. and then there's also a ability to export all of the information, attendance information, housed within Orah, so that you can re import them into TASS. and that might only happen once a term.
yeah. Anything you'd add to that, Ronan?
Ronan Quirke: yeah. So I guess the key things is moving to the key jump here for a school is to use the, Use Orah as your sort of day to day, up to the minute,source of information for, for attendance and student location.
and then on one side you're using your SAS to get all that core information. And as you said, you're using Orah. And then on the other side is ensuring that, that information goes back to your system of record, whether it be at the end of term, if that's what you need, and that's what the system capability of TASSks is in particular for another SIS, it might be within an hour or on a daily basis, or even near real time.
but we feel that the best way to manage things is to to do all your day to day operations within Orah, knowing that information is still going to be in your system of record, your SIS as well.
Kurt Meyer: Great. And just a little bit more detail on to the Type of information that we, send and receive from the SIS. So the core information that we're pulling from the API, that's your student, your students, your contacts, like parents or guardians, all of your staff and faculty, day houses in the case of TASSks, your courses and timetables, so we're constantly seeking that information with the SIS.
So then that gives us the, The primary,building blocks that we need in Orah to, do this next bit here, which is the class attendance, absences, excuses, location check ins, and then when you get to exporting those records, that's in a CSV format, exporting, absences and late records, and we'll go into a demo for how that looks as well.
Ronan Quirke: Yeah, and so really, if it's extending this to other systems, then really, what we need, in terms of an integration is those kind of those key things, obviously, student information, contacts is important, because we also want to put you on, our parent request capabilities. So parents can actually create, Absence requests themselves if somebody's out sick and things like that because we know that's a big, time saver for schools as well and staff, obviously, but the timetables and things like that. quite, quite a few pieces of information, but by and large, if your school information system API, generally, it has all of those things available for it as well.
Okay, so we'll give a demonstration of some of the key aspects of the system. so starting off with the core attendance management, which are made up in three key types of records. You've got absences, roll codes, and reasons. So we'll go into how these look from an end user perspective, as well as some of the settings and capabilities that you have to configure those.
Kurt Meyer: So while I'm still here on this page, I'm going to, first, I'm going to talk to what it looks like from a teacher's perspective to take attendance. So I've just opened up our browser extension on the right hand side here.and what schools would do is that they would, install the browser extension on all the teacher devices.
They would set up SSO so that, teachers can log in using their existing credentials. and what it means is that, When a teacher wants to take attendance, they'll just pop open the browser extension like this, so it doesn't disrupt, anything that they're currently doing, within the classroom.
And they can select on their class and, yeah, simply go through a list of students to, take attendance. And the two, ways that we allow schools to keep track of students is using these role codes here.so these are the options that a teacher or attendance manager can choose from to update a student's status on a per class level.
and then we have these absences. So absences are, a way of indicating that a student has been excused, over, an extended period of time which could span multiple classes. so we can see here, Wynton. He's got a planned absence, so as a teacher, I know he's been excused, so I don't need to, mark him for this role.
and we have some options where you can give teachers the ability to end these, in case the student actually does show up to class. but that really depends on how, different schools Operate in their, their own procedures.so I think the key point here is these are the attendance codes and these are the absences and that's this is what they look like from a teacher's perspective because we'll be referring to these a little bit more in the other demos.
Okay, so now that you have an idea of what it looks like from a teacher's perspective when they take attendance, I'm going to look into what it looks like to create an absence as a staff member. So this could be the attendance manager inputting it. That's pretty straightforward. So you would search the student, select the student, hit absence, And you'd have the different types of absences that you've set up.
Typically, schools would have an absent from school, like an all day absence, a part day absence, early departure, and late for school. Those are the typical categories that we see. And when you enter an absence, you would select a location, so in this case it would be home. You can select a reason as well.
And I'll circle back to reasons and how to set those up.and you can apply defaults to the different absence categories as well. In this case, I've defaulted it to a parent approved absence.and then you can also set the time frame.so if I said,I can backdate this one to the start of a school day, say 8 a.
m. And have it to the end of the school day, 3 p. m. or 3 15. And so any classes that the students. has between the these two times will be excused.
So now whenever a teacher takes attendance, they would see that this student has been excused, so they won't have to mark them during roll. So that's how it would look like from a staff member's perspective. But one of the key pain points at the moment is when parents want to excuse their child, which is what happens most of the time in the day school environment, right?
So usually parents would email or call the school and someone has to,collect all that information and manually add it into the system. And usually that's,that it has a lag so it's not, teachers. don't have the most up to date information.so what we've done is streamlined it so that parents can, submit excuses themselves.
so this is a public link that you can share with your parents. they don't require an account, although there is a way to give parents accounts if you want to do that, if you want to give them access to the app. But the most simplest way to get parents started is just to give them access to this public link, which could be in the, It could be on your website.
You could just email it out to parents, or if you already have a parent app, you could, embed the link into that app as well. And, once parents come to this page, they just need to put in their email address and we will send them a. A one time password, and once they do that, they just input their code, and then that, confirms that it's the actual, parent who's doing this, and will show, any students that the parent is connected to, and they can simply select the student, and select the form, or the absence type that they want to submit, and that's it.
Fill out the information,
let's say if it's all day today,
and that's it. So that's all parents have to do to be able to excuse their child from school. They don't have to call up the school or send emails. so it's much more streamlined. And, we've seen that save a lot of time for someone who's usually inputting that information manually.
Ronan Quirke: Yeah. And this sort of system is perfect for someone like me.
You know, every term. One of the kids is going to be sick once, but, we're probably only at recording an absence request. So once a term, and it doesn't really merit an app and remembering a password and username and things like that from a parent's perspective. Yeah. Fingers crossed it's only once a term.
This winter has probably been a couple of times a term that we've had to request, request absences. but by and large, you just want something low friction. You don't have to have the parent remember anything. They can have, you can have a link on your website, click that link, put in your email address and away you go.
Kurt Meyer: Awesome. So that's, that's how Orah would, record absences and excuse students from class.so I just want to go into the settings and show you a little bit of the back end of how those can be configured.so these are the absence types that I've created, but you can create any number of absence types depending on how your school operates.
pretty much everything is customizable. And,
so you can restrict the different students who have access to this. Say if there's an absence form or type that only say senior students have access to, then you're able to apply those restrictions. you can capture more information. so the ones that we've been using just have the basic,start and end time, reason, location, but you can add additional fields, checklist, file attachments, and things like that.
Um,the reasons, as I mentioned before, you can,customize the reasons. So the reason explains why.so the absence type gives you the general category, but. Reasons give you an additional layer, so that you can explain exactly why students are absent. And if you're familiar with TASS, then this, the idea of reasons is quite essential to, your attendance records.
so every attendance record needs to have a reason associated with it so that you know why a student was absent. and that, that helps you with your downstream reporting and things like that.so yeah, if you're using TASSks or if one of, if your SIS already has reasons, then you can replicate those reasons in Aura,quite easily.
and as I mentioned, you can set the default reason for your. different, absence types.you can also customize the workflow. whether or not parents have access to this form, whether or not it's being used on a kiosk, say if a student is checking into health center or,if they're arriving to school late and there's a kiosk for them to check into, you can customize the workflows around the different types of absences as well.
So that's the apps and settings at a glance, and I just wanted to touch on the roll code settings as well. before I showed you what it looked like from a teacher's perspective, and they had a list of roll codes that they could choose from. but you can create additional roll codes that have been locked, so that only attendance administrators have access to those.
So there's a way to,block off. any more nuanced or specific role codes that only attendance managers should have access to, whereas the teachers might have access to, the basic present, absent, tardy or late.and also, as I mentioned, there's the ability to determine whether or not, role, teachers should be able to end excuses during class.
So you can turn that on and off. and the last thing I'd mention is that there's also, an option to set up automatic reminders for incomplete role checks. So if a teacher hasn't completed their role in time, you can send out an automated reminder just to, nudge them.those are a couple of the settings within the role options.
Ronan Quirke: That's great. There's a couple of questions coming in, but I've been holding them back because I think they'll make a lot more sense to everybody else as you roll forward just a little bit further. But yeah, just keep the questions coming, team, and we will get to them shortly. I just wanted to let Kurt show everything first, and then I think those questions will make a lot more sense.
Kurt Meyer: Awesome. Thanks for coming in.so yeah, I've covered,the two main ways you would record absences, what role codes look like from a teacher's perspective, how to customize those, and also the idea of reasons and applying reasons to both, absences and role codes. And so those are the three main, records that you need to manage within Orah to get that, understanding around attendance and to feed that back into your SIS.
SIS.and one of the byproducts of having more accurate real time attendance data is that you get better insights, that you can, take action on to improve attendance rates and pull up students who might have, might be showing a, a negative pattern around attendance. And I'll just talk through that dash, the dashboard that we've created to help you do that.
So when you start using Orah to collect the attendance information, we'll provide this dashboard outside of the box, and this gives you a pulse on your attendance rate, and you can filter by different, student groups, you can filter by different timeframes, And yeah, it gives you an overview of your attendance rate, depending on which students and which time frame you're looking at, you'll be able to see,any hotspots of poor attendance on a per class or per grade level.
and this just gives you the ability to drill a bit deeper to see if there's any.maybe there's an avoidance pattern around a particular class or particular year level that you need to unpack.there's also a way to see which students have the most unexcused absences.so this widget here shows you the top 10, but you're able to see more as well.
And it just gives you an overview, in this example, in the last 12 weeks, we've got a student here who's had 23 absence records over three days, so that might be,a point of intervention. It's just going through these different students, and what we see schools doing is that they set up a different dashboard for different student cohorts, and then often there's, a dean, who's responsible for those students who would just be focusing on that dashboard and that'll give them their bird's eye view of, which are the students that they need to follow up on and pay the most attention to.
And, yeah, we also highlight the most tardy or late students as well as the most excused absent students. so it just gives you that, overview of which students, might need attention, which excuse types or absence types are being used the most.and you can also drill down into more detail on this table view here.
so we can see students who have you know, at least one absent count or more than zero, within the given time frame, and you'll be able to, drill down and see, exactly which classes that those relate to.so it just makes it a lot easier for you to highlight and drill down and find students that, yeah, are missing class and be able to have conversations with them around, what's going on and how you might be able to improve that attendance.
so yeah, this has been quite a valuable addition. We've seen, schools adopt and it's, yeah, it's really a, a result of having that more accurate, real-time information.
so that's the attendance insights piece. And the last piece I wanted to cover is your attendance records and how an attendance manager or someone who's responsible for the attendance records would be able to clean and export those records to send them back to TASSk.
Ronan Quirke: Yes, perfect, Kurt. And, yeah, this is a part where, Sharifa was asking, can Orah generate a report of, for staff who have yet to take attendance?
So that was, I knew something was going to be coming up in this section.
Kurt Meyer: Perfect.yes, there is a way to,
see, records. that have been, oh sorry, classes that have or have not had attendance taken.so we, we showed different statuses. So we showed the completed, in progress, and not started. statuses. And, so we can see here, we've got one completed, we've got one in progress. But if there's any that has not been started for a given day, you can select those and send them a reminder.
and as I mentioned before, you can also set up automated reminders so that they're, triggering without someone having to follow up.but you can always select on a particular record and send reminders as well. So we have a lot of. features around reminding and nudging, teachers to take attendance when they should.
Ronan Quirke: Yes. So this is a perfect screen for an attendance manager. And in fact, I've been in a school which is taking role and you see the list of the schedule and it's been going green as staff work through that. So it updates in real time. so it's really just, from a, from my perspective, if I'm here as an attendance manager, I'm just watching for.
Okay. So this class, was scheduled half an hour ago and the role still hasn't been completed. that's maybe when I'm following up, certainly in the early days as you're launching as well, just making sure that everybody's remembering to do it. but quite quickly, everybody gets into the habit, given that it's quite easy to do that from the, particularly from the browser extension.
Kurt Meyer: Yeah, absolutely. And that, that all contributes to having accurate records is making sure that it's easy enough for teachers to take attendance. And also they're being reminded to, to do it when they should.and so the other piece is giving attendance managers, the ability to,have that overall control and, editing ability around records.
so here we can see all the, All of the attendance records on a per student basis, for a particular day. And we can see that, we have some absent records here, a late record, an excused absence, or an explained absence. but an attendance manager can easily open up one of these records and edit the role code, or they can also edit the reason.
so as I mentioned before, the reason explains why. So we know a student was absent from class.originally it's the reason it's not approved. So you might have a process where you follow up on any not approved absences, because technically it's, it could be truancy or something like that.
And so you have to find out why the student was not, was not present in class. And then they might actually have a legitimate reason that wasn't, known initially. And so you're able to,change the statuses as well to ensure that you have the most accurate information.
And here we have an explained absence. So we know the student was absent from class. they had an active excuse.or absent from school. And so that's all good. And there's also the ability to filter by the different, attendance codes and, statuses as well. So,if you have a follow up process at the end of each day where you have to, see which students were marked as absent, non approved, then you can easily filter by those different statuses and then just follow up on those students and to ensure that you've got accurate information for why students are missing class.
so that's a few of the capabilities that you have around grooming, your attendance records and filtering through them. And once you're happy with the information that you have around attendance, you can do an export, say, once a term, to import that information back into, in this case, TASS. So we have an export functionality here, and we've got a.
A template that's designed specifically for TASS, and you can choose the different categories that you want to export, as well as the time range. And, I'll just show you what that export looks like as well. here's an example here, and the way that this export is designed is that it's pretty much just the exact, format that you would need to re import into TASS to keep your, academic transcripts in TASS accurate.
So we have all of the, for information that you need, the absence type, which is coded, the reason code as well, the dates, the times, the,we also have the period code in here. I don't have it in this, in our test account, but, we'd also have a period code. Which, TASS also needs the staff member, any notes, the year level group.
So this is all, the language that, TASS needs in order to ingest the, the attendance record so that. when you generate your reports and tests, it's as if you were taking attendance in TASS.
Ronan Quirke: yes, but bearing in mind that is just for TASS for a lot of other SISs, you don't even have to see this.
there is an API that, that kind of will send this data back if available. So this is just, If you don't have a way for us to automatically send that information back, then that is the other option, which works pretty well as well. because as we said, everything up to the real time daily things are in, in Orah anyway.
So just making sure that, for your reporting periods in your SIS, that you've got that information as well.
Kurt Meyer: Yep, exactly. So if you're using one of our otherit says partners like Blackboard or Veracross. You won't even have to do an export. It's just sent automatically through the API.
Ronan Quirke: Yeah, and just on while we're on that topic, Amanda.
Hey, Amanda had a question around Blackboard specifically around changes to schedules, snow days, special schedules, things like that. will they roll through? Yes, so we pull in the schedule on a nightly basis from Blackboard at the moment. now if there's changes, what we have found as we've been rolling this out is yes, there are sometimes last minute changes we didn't anticipate.
So we are putting in a manual sync. So if you just make a change and you want to rerun the sync, that's something we've learned is that, not everything works perfectly on a planned basis in, in, in schools. so that is something that We will be catering to as well as the ability to,to have that in place.
yeah,
perfect.
Kurt Meyer: Yeah, I think that covers at a high level how you would,how Orah works around attendance and the relationship between the SIS, so we've got a number of schools, adopting Orah as the primary attendance system and, but still, keeping their SIS as the main system of record, and through that setup, some of the, benefits that we're seeing is, an increased efficiency, so time saving and ease of use,for their staff members, improved insights and data accuracy around attendance.
Improved parent communications and improved safety, through the real time understanding and accounting of where students are,on each day.
Ronan Quirke: Yeah. Kurt, I've got two, related questions I was saving towards the end as well. So we might just maybe just, go through those because, I think they, they have,some overlap there.
Amanda was asking about, Sometimes they struggle with the standard things. And I hear you Amanda, that standard things are pretty straightforward. You're in class, everything works fine. independent study, free time blocks when they need to check into the library or internships, so they have to leave campus,for an internship and return.
so that's one thing. and then the other,related question from Sharifa is it possible we can have NFC at each classroom where students can self register and automatically update their attendance for that period? So there's a little bit of overlap there. maybe we'll start with, leaving for internships and things like that.
Would you probably recommend passes for that, Kurt? so that they're marked away from their standard classes. And they have a location then set, so that, they're leaving at a certain time, they're due back at a certain time, and that passes ended then when they arrive back on campus.
Kurt Meyer: Yeah, absolutely. So you'd use passes,or absences, depends on your terminology, those can be customized. And, you can also set up recurring absences as well. So if they,if they have an internship that happens at the same time each week, then that could just, click over at the same time without someone having to manually enter that.
and any classes that overlap with that period, show the student as excused. Perfect.
Ronan Quirke: but if they, oh, yeah, so that, if there's enrolled as those as classes, so the internship is a class, then, yeah, I guess there is no capability for somebody to you. I suppose self like for a student to self record attendance.
so that might be something we need to dig into a little bit more. That's an interesting challenge for us to think through. but while we're thinking about that, the other thing I wanted to touch on was NFC and some of the use cases we've been seeing for NFC.tiles, Kurt, in terms of attendance and how that's working.
Kurt Meyer: Yeah, so we do have a number of schools using the NFC tiles More fluidly, just to check into locations. we haven't yet applied the NFC tiles to, class attendance. but we do have all the components to make that possible.the main thing that we need to do is be able to sync the locations over from the Orah locations.
It's all possible, and, we have had a lot of interest in it,if there's any schools that want to help us develop that further, we'd be, yeah, more than happy to work with you all to, enable that sort of workflow. But what we found the most important thing is ensuring that the underlying data and workflows is accurate, because we see some other companies out there who are doing things like, facial recognition,biometrics.
Fingerprint scanning, things like that, but they don't, it doesn't translate into the, it doesn't translate well, at least from what we've seen with other schools trying to adopt those tools is that it hasn't translated well in terms of the underlying core attendance processes that schools operate on.
so that's really important is to ensure that you have that base. data model working well, and you can handle the,edge cases around students coming early, leaving early, being absent, and once you can manage all of those effectively, then we think the next step is applying the,the automations on top of that.
Things like NFC or facial recognition, would be the next step, and that's what we're working towards in the longer term.
Ronan Quirke: Yes, but yeah, really streamlining how things currently operate and automating as much of how things currently operate is our kind of our first goal, because there's a huge amount of benefit in that, but totally agree with everybody who wants to dream big and really automate even more.
And that's definitely part of. Part of our vision as to where we want to take this because,we do see a future state where a lot of this is automatically recorded. I think that does require, though, every school having a different vision as to how they see technology being used in the classroom.
the different ways of recognizing individual students, things like that. Lots of different conversations and thoughts around is facial recognition appropriate? Do we want to have devices in the classroom? Do you want to use different physical access cards? How do we want to identify students?
Which is much more specific to the schools. So very much alive conversation as to, to, to. what we can do to help that. Perfect. I think we're almost at time. Really appreciate the questions. There is one quick one, which I'll answer from Mitchell. Hey Mitchell, about Synergetic is whether or not we can export data back to Synergetic in real time.
And the answer at the moment is No. that's because Synergetic, a big overhaul of the integration is planned. so definitely keen. I'll reach out to you after this and say hi and, then take you through what we're thinking, because we're definitely interested in working with some schools on Synergetic.
It's on our list of ones to come.
Kurt Meyer: Absolutely. Independent locations.
Ronan Quirke: Perfect. And Amanda, thanks for your questions. I think we'll maybe follow up with some of those after this as well, cause you've got some good ones. but, conscious of time and sorry, apologies. We didn't get to all of those, but I definitely will follow up on them.
Kurt Meyer: Perfect.and yep, just for anyone who's interested to reach out to us, you can email me at kurt@orah.com. And. anything at all, if you want to explore,new development ideas, potential,we love working with schools to, further develop our product, or if you want to set up a trial and, Or set up a demo to get more understanding about how some of these features work, we'd love to hear from you.
but we'll also send out a follow up email after this with a recording of the session as well.
Ronan Quirke: Thank you so much, everybody.
Kurt Meyer: Awesome. Thanks, everyone. Thanks, Ronan. We'll see you next time.
